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	<title>Comments on: Traffic Kahuna Goes Live - They&#8217;re Not Getting My Money</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 05:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nkeno</title>
		<link>http://www.themakemoneyonline.net/traffic-kahuna-goes-live-theyre-not-getting-my-money/#comment-3638</link>
		<dc:creator>Nkeno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 21:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For your information, TK is the best investment I have ever made since I started in this online biz (apart from the XsitePro Cheat Sheet by James Shramko).

TK IS NOT a rip-off in any way. I take it you are already successful in your online ventures ? If not, please do yourself a favour and sign-up for TK. My website reached #3 for a keyword that every internet marketer would tell me was impossible to rank for in Google "because there is too much competition". All you need is the "right" type of links, and those are within the TK system. As a result of my ranking I managed to make just over $2000 in 11 days !! Prior to that I was lucky to earn $500 in a month.

Bottom line. TK is not a waste of money. Their billing is done through PAYPAL, which YOU can cancel whenever YOU want. They are not frauds at all.....

Hope this helps clarify a few things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For your information, TK is the best investment I have ever made since I started in this online biz (apart from the XsitePro Cheat Sheet by James Shramko).</p>
<p>TK IS NOT a rip-off in any way. I take it you are already successful in your online ventures ? If not, please do yourself a favour and sign-up for TK. My website reached #3 for a keyword that every internet marketer would tell me was impossible to rank for in Google &#8220;because there is too much competition&#8221;. All you need is the &#8220;right&#8221; type of links, and those are within the TK system. As a result of my ranking I managed to make just over $2000 in 11 days !! Prior to that I was lucky to earn $500 in a month.</p>
<p>Bottom line. TK is not a waste of money. Their billing is done through PAYPAL, which YOU can cancel whenever YOU want. They are not frauds at all&#8230;..</p>
<p>Hope this helps clarify a few things.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul B</title>
		<link>http://www.themakemoneyonline.net/traffic-kahuna-goes-live-theyre-not-getting-my-money/#comment-2070</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 12:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.  Glad you asked.  When after a couple of months the service/product offered is changed.  This happens all the time with online services and allows the company in question to take that one final payment, shut up shop/completely alter what they are gibing you without offering a refund.  A great example of how recurring membership fees should work is a TV subscription, if I stop my subscription part way through a month that I have previously paid for then I expect and will get a refund for that part month I didn't use.  Online " members" clubs shy away from this business model for no other reason than greed, it's not exactly hard to implement?

As for the disclaimer, I agree, it's a very standard thing.  The problem I have with it is that it is hidden away (Tiny white writing on a bright blue background)?  

It's just my opinion but I think with these types of thing 1 or 2 people do very well out of it and  many people are left scratching their heads.  Seeing as how it sold out in 14 minutes though what the hell do I know?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.  Glad you asked.  When after a couple of months the service/product offered is changed.  This happens all the time with online services and allows the company in question to take that one final payment, shut up shop/completely alter what they are gibing you without offering a refund.  A great example of how recurring membership fees should work is a TV subscription, if I stop my subscription part way through a month that I have previously paid for then I expect and will get a refund for that part month I didn&#8217;t use.  Online &#8221; members&#8221; clubs shy away from this business model for no other reason than greed, it&#8217;s not exactly hard to implement?</p>
<p>As for the disclaimer, I agree, it&#8217;s a very standard thing.  The problem I have with it is that it is hidden away (Tiny white writing on a bright blue background)?  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s just my opinion but I think with these types of thing 1 or 2 people do very well out of it and  many people are left scratching their heads.  Seeing as how it sold out in 14 minutes though what the hell do I know?!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.themakemoneyonline.net/traffic-kahuna-goes-live-theyre-not-getting-my-money/#comment-2039</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 04:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps you misunderstood a couple of things.
1) Anyone joining Traffic Kahuna has a right to a full refund for up to 30 days after payment. If after that time one decides to stay then there is no need for refunds. The client will have already made a choice to stay and if one then chooses to leave one simply stops paying. This is normal practice and fair to both parties. 
Why,in all fairness would you feel a refund was appropriate after several months of membership?

2) There are legal requirements upon busineses to make clear the limitations of an offer. For example Tk make no claim to how much money one might earn and they must make that clear in the terms and conditions. They make it very clear that you are the one doing the work and that the outcome is thus down to you.
Bear in mind that you do the work using a set of tools. 
If you are a bad carpenter you do not make a claim for poor workmanship against the hammer maker. You either learn to be a good carpenter or stop trying to be a carpenter.

TK gives you 30 days to decide if the hammer is any good or if you are a good carpenter. The terms of service simply make that relationship clear.

Sadly there is not a special form of words that is used by scam artists and genuine businesses, both have to follow the same rules and laws in terms of what they tell potential clients.

&lt;em&gt;Andrew's last blog post..&lt;a href='http://articlemarketer.org/promote-your-ebook-through-clickbank-squeeze-pages/business/950/' rel="nofollow"&gt;Promote Your Ebook Through Clickbank Squeeze Pages&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps you misunderstood a couple of things.<br />
1) Anyone joining Traffic Kahuna has a right to a full refund for up to 30 days after payment. If after that time one decides to stay then there is no need for refunds. The client will have already made a choice to stay and if one then chooses to leave one simply stops paying. This is normal practice and fair to both parties.<br />
Why,in all fairness would you feel a refund was appropriate after several months of membership?</p>
<p>2) There are legal requirements upon busineses to make clear the limitations of an offer. For example Tk make no claim to how much money one might earn and they must make that clear in the terms and conditions. They make it very clear that you are the one doing the work and that the outcome is thus down to you.<br />
Bear in mind that you do the work using a set of tools.<br />
If you are a bad carpenter you do not make a claim for poor workmanship against the hammer maker. You either learn to be a good carpenter or stop trying to be a carpenter.</p>
<p>TK gives you 30 days to decide if the hammer is any good or if you are a good carpenter. The terms of service simply make that relationship clear.</p>
<p>Sadly there is not a special form of words that is used by scam artists and genuine businesses, both have to follow the same rules and laws in terms of what they tell potential clients.</p>
<p><em>Andrew&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://articlemarketer.org/promote-your-ebook-through-clickbank-squeeze-pages/business/950/' >Promote Your Ebook Through Clickbank Squeeze Pages</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: CatherineL</title>
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		<dc:creator>CatherineL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paul - sounds like a lot of the so called business opportunities out there.

Thanks for making everyone aware of it.  There are too many  idiots our there promoting shite when they know the product is shite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul - sounds like a lot of the so called business opportunities out there.</p>
<p>Thanks for making everyone aware of it.  There are too many  idiots our there promoting shite when they know the product is shite.</p>
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